Sick Fish
10-27-2008, 05:14 PM
Alright, so I know this happened a few months ago and most people saw it for the first time this past week but I have to post about it. I just watched this episode this morning on my DVR so I'm sure that most of you have already seen it. If by chance you haven't watched any of the Day 6 episodes yet then you might want to skip this.
So here is what happens.(see the video hear and fast forward to 6:05 for the hand) (http://pokertube.com/Movies.aspx?movie=7857) Brandon Cantu and Nikolay Losev are heads up in a pot and the river card has just been laid on the table. Cantu checks and Losev grabs a stack of about 3,000,000 chips and slides it out towards the middle and then brings it back. Then he cuts the stack in half and bets out 1,500,000 in chips.
Some would say that Losev was trying to figure out how much he wanted to bet. Others would say that he was trying to get a tell otherwise known as string betting. When the floor gets called over the main question is how far out did he move the stack of chips and they use the dealer button which happens to be right there as guide for the ruling. But what if the dealer button was at the other end of the table? How does he make the call now?
Everywhere that I've played that's an illegal move. You can't make a forward movement with a stack of chips and bring it back. If you do that in a tournament the dealer will make you put the original amount out that you made forward movement with. And if by chance the dealer doesn't then the floor manager is quickly called over and takes care of it. You would think that in the Main Event of the WSOP they would get the call right. Especially on day six when they're getting close to the end.
There is a really easy fix for this problem and I hope that in next years WSOP and even at the final table of this years event that will be played in November they just add a bet line around the table. More and more b&m casinos are starting to add them to their tables. They've been on the tables at my local casino for about a year now. There is never any problems now about betting there.
Let me know your thoughts.
So here is what happens.(see the video hear and fast forward to 6:05 for the hand) (http://pokertube.com/Movies.aspx?movie=7857) Brandon Cantu and Nikolay Losev are heads up in a pot and the river card has just been laid on the table. Cantu checks and Losev grabs a stack of about 3,000,000 chips and slides it out towards the middle and then brings it back. Then he cuts the stack in half and bets out 1,500,000 in chips.
Some would say that Losev was trying to figure out how much he wanted to bet. Others would say that he was trying to get a tell otherwise known as string betting. When the floor gets called over the main question is how far out did he move the stack of chips and they use the dealer button which happens to be right there as guide for the ruling. But what if the dealer button was at the other end of the table? How does he make the call now?
Everywhere that I've played that's an illegal move. You can't make a forward movement with a stack of chips and bring it back. If you do that in a tournament the dealer will make you put the original amount out that you made forward movement with. And if by chance the dealer doesn't then the floor manager is quickly called over and takes care of it. You would think that in the Main Event of the WSOP they would get the call right. Especially on day six when they're getting close to the end.
There is a really easy fix for this problem and I hope that in next years WSOP and even at the final table of this years event that will be played in November they just add a bet line around the table. More and more b&m casinos are starting to add them to their tables. They've been on the tables at my local casino for about a year now. There is never any problems now about betting there.
Let me know your thoughts.